Blackface two-channel bass amp head with a shared third stage, mid 1960s style
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Modeled after the Fender AB165 Bassman.
Two channels on 7025s, mixed through 220 kΩ into a shared third stage with 470 kΩ of feedback around it. The bass channel has the treble, bass and Deep tone network, the normal channel a Bright switch. A 12AT7 long-tail pair with the speaker’s feedback on its grid drives two 6L6GCs.
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Common mods
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Input
Peak voltage from the pickup for each note. Strum hard and a single coil puts out a few hundred millivolts. When you play a chord, its strings share this level.
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Input
pickup, unloadedat the pedal input
Output
at the amp input
Probe
Spectrum
Frequency response
What the curves mean
The ink curve is the response to a very quiet signal, from the generator to the probe. The blue curve is measured with pink noise at the level you set, like an audio analyzer. When stages clip, the blue curve pulls away from the ink one and the gray coherence line (right-hand scale) drops below 1. Then no single curve tells the whole story. Both use the signal generator, whichever Input tab is picked.
Output
Bias
every voltage and current at rest
What to listen for. Both channels have the blackface tone network hung straight off the first plate, with a fixed resistor where a middle pot would be. The bass channel’s first plate resistor has .01 µF across it, which rolls off the highs. The third stage has 470 kΩ from its plate back to the mixing node, so its gain stays near 1.5 from each channel and it takes a lot of drive to clip. The speaker’s feedback goes into the inverter’s grid, and 220 kΩ from each output plate back to the inverter adds a second loop around the output tubes.
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Parts and what they do
Stock values. Tap a part on the schematic to change it.
- R1B, 68 kΩ
- The bass channel’s input 1 resistor into the grid. With nothing in input 2 it sits in parallel with input 2’s resistor, so a guitar in input 1 sees 34 kΩ to the grid: enough to stop radio pickup, not enough to cut treble.
- R3B, 68 kΩ
- The bass channel’s input 2 resistor into the grid. With nothing in input 1, input 1’s tip is grounded, so the two 68 kΩ make a divider: input 2 is about 6 dB quieter and loads the guitar with 136 kΩ.
- R2B, 1 MΩ
- Input 1’s 1 MΩ to ground. It sets the load a guitar in input 1 sees, and with a patch lead in input 1 it is the end of the lead’s path.
- R1A, 68 kΩ
- The normal channel’s input 1 resistor into the grid. With nothing in input 2 it sits in parallel with input 2’s resistor, so a guitar in input 1 sees 34 kΩ to the grid: enough to stop radio pickup, not enough to cut treble.
- R3A, 68 kΩ
- The normal channel’s input 2 resistor into the grid. With nothing in input 1, input 1’s tip is grounded, so the two 68 kΩ make a divider: input 2 is about 6 dB quieter and loads the guitar with 136 kΩ.
- R2A, 1 MΩ
- Input 1’s 1 MΩ to ground. It sets the load a guitar in input 1 sees, and with a patch lead in input 1 it is the end of the lead’s path.
- 27k, 27 kΩ
- Dropping resistor, 27 kΩ 1 W, from the +390 V node to the +320 V node that feeds V1 and V2a.
- 8µ, 8 µF electrolytic
- Filter cap on the +320 V node, 8 µF 450 V.
- V1a, 12AX7 / ECC83 / 7025
- Bass channel first stage, half a 7025. Its cathode is bypassed for full gain.
- 1500, 1.5 kΩ
- V1a cathode resistor, 1500 Ω.
- 25µ, 25 µF electrolytic
- V1a bypass cap, 25 µF 25 V.
- 100k, 100 kΩ
- V1a plate resistor, 100 kΩ.
- .01µ, 10 nF
- Across V1a’s plate resistor, .01 µF. Above about 160 Hz it shunts the plate resistor to the supply node, so the stage’s gain falls with rising pitch: a treble cut ahead of the tone controls.
- 330p, 330 pF
- Treble cap, 330 pF (hard to read on the drawing, so the usual value is used). The network hangs straight off the plate. Every path from the plate to ground goes through a cap.
- 100k, 100 kΩ
- Slope resistor, 100 kΩ.
- .1µ, 100 nF
- Bass cap, .1 µF, five times the guitar amps’ .02 µF, so the bass pot works lower down.
- .1µ, 100 nF
- Middle cap, .1 µF.
- Treble, 250 kΩ pot, audio taper
- Bass channel treble, 250 kΩ audio. Its wiper feeds the volume. Brighter clockwise.
- Bass, 250 kΩ pot, audio taper
- Bass channel bass, 250 kΩ audio, a variable resistor. More bass clockwise.
- 8.2k, 8.2 kΩ
- In place of a middle pot, 8.2 kΩ to ground (hard to read on the drawing, so the usual value is used).
- Volume, 1 MΩ pot, audio taper
- Bass channel volume, 1 MΩ audio.
- V1b, 12AX7 / ECC83 / 7025
- Bass channel second stage, the other half of V1.
- 1500, 1.5 kΩ
- V1b cathode resistor, 1500 Ω.
- 25µ, 25 µF electrolytic
- V1b bypass cap, 25 µF 25 V.
- 100k, 100 kΩ
- V1b plate resistor, 100 kΩ from the +320 V node.
- 220k, 220 kΩ
- Bass channel mixing resistor, 220 kΩ from V1b’s plate to the mixing node. There’s no cap ahead of it, so it carries a little DC between the plates and V3a’s.
- .01µ, 10 nF
- Coupling cap from the mixing node into V3a, .01 µF. With the 470 kΩ grid leak it rolls off below about 34 Hz.
- 470k, 470 kΩ
- V3a grid leak, 470 kΩ.
- 470k, 470 kΩ
- Feedback, 470 kΩ from V3a’s plate back to the mixing node. With the two 220 kΩ mixing resistors it holds V3a’s gain to about 1.5 from each channel, and it lowers V3a’s output impedance, which matters here: the speaker’s feedback goes to the inverter’s grid that V3a drives.
- V3a, 12AX7 / ECC83 / 7025
- The third stage, half of the middle 7025 (its other half is unused). Both channels go through it.
- 1500, 1.5 kΩ
- V3a cathode resistor, 1500 Ω.
- 25µ, 25 µF electrolytic
- V3a bypass cap, 25 µF.
- 100k, 100 kΩ
- V3a plate resistor, 100 kΩ from the +390 V node.
- .1µ, 100 nF
- Coupling cap from V3a’s plate to the inverter’s grid, .1 µF. The speaker’s feedback joins on its far side.
- V2a, 12AX7 / ECC83 / 7025
- Normal channel first stage, half a 7025.
- 1500, 1.5 kΩ
- V2a cathode resistor, 1500 Ω.
- 25µ, 25 µF electrolytic
- V2a bypass cap, 25 µF.
- 100k, 100 kΩ
- V2a plate resistor, 100 kΩ from the +320 V node.
- 500p, 500 pF
- 500 pF across V2a’s plate resistor. It cuts the stage’s gain above about 6 kHz.
- 250p, 250 pF
- Treble cap, 250 pF.
- 100k, 100 kΩ
- Slope resistor, 100 kΩ.
- .1µ, 100 nF
- Bass cap, .1 µF.
- .047µ, 47 nF
- Middle cap, .047 µF.
- Treble, 250 kΩ pot, audio taper
- Normal treble, 250 kΩ audio. Its wiper feeds the volume. Brighter clockwise.
- Bass, 250 kΩ pot, audio taper
- Normal bass, 250 kΩ audio, a variable resistor. More bass clockwise.
- 6.8k, 6.8 kΩ
- In place of a middle pot, 6.8 kΩ to ground, as in a Deluxe Reverb.
- Volume, 1 MΩ pot, audio taper
- Normal volume, 1 MΩ audio.
- V2b, 12AX7 / ECC83 / 7025
- Normal channel second stage, the other half of V2.
- 1500, 1.5 kΩ
- V2b cathode resistor, 1500 Ω.
- 25µ, 25 µF electrolytic
- V2b bypass cap, 25 µF.
- 100k, 100 kΩ
- V2b plate resistor, 100 kΩ from the +390 V node.
- 220k, 220 kΩ
- Normal channel mixing resistor, 220 kΩ from V2b’s plate to the mixing node.
- V4a, 12AT7 / ECC81
- 12AT7, the driven half of the long-tail pair phase inverter. Its plate swings opposite the input and drives tube A. Its grid is fed through the preamp’s coupling cap, so there’s no second one here.
- V4b, 12AT7 / ECC81
- The other half of the inverter. Its grid sits at the feedback point for signal, so it’s driven through the shared cathodes, and its plate swings with the input. It drives tube B.
- 1M, 1 MΩ
- Grid resistor for the driven half, returned to the bias point above the tail, not to ground.
- 1M, 1 MΩ
- Grid resistor for the other half.
- 470, 470 Ω
- Bias resistor for both halves. The cathodes sit this far above the grids’ return, a volt or so.
- 22k, 22 kΩ
- The tail resistor, to ground. It’s large, so the pair shares a nearly fixed current. When one half conducts more, the other conducts less, which splits the phase.
- .1µ, 100 nF
- Ties the second grid to ground for signal, so that half is driven only through the shared cathodes. The feedback comes in at the first grid.
- 100k, 100 kΩ
- Plate resistor for the driven half. It’s smaller than the other so the two outputs come out about even.
- 100k, 100 kΩ
- Plate resistor for the other half.
- 220k, 220 kΩ
- Feedback, 220k Ω from tube A’s plate back to the inverter plate that drives it. The output plate swings opposite its grid, so this lowers the output stage’s gain and its output impedance. It doesn’t reach around the output transformer. It also carries about a milliamp of DC into the inverter plate.
- 220k, 220 kΩ
- The same from tube B’s plate back to the other inverter plate.
- 47k, 47 kΩ
- Feedback, 47k Ω from the speaker through the cap beside it into the inverter’s first grid. There it meets the preamp’s signal, turned the other way, so the two subtract. How much gets in depends on what drives that grid: the stronger the preamp’s source, the less the feedback can pull the grid. It lowers the gain, flattens the response and tightens the bass.
- .1µ, 100 nF
- In series with the feedback resistor, .1µF. It keeps the grid’s DC off the speaker line.
- .022µ, 22 nF
- Coupling cap to tube A’s grid.
- .022µ, 22 nF
- Coupling cap to tube B’s grid.
- 1.5k, 1.5 kΩ
- Grid stopper for tube A. It keeps the tube from oscillating and softens grid current.
- 1.5k, 1.5 kΩ
- Grid stopper for tube B.
- V5, 6L6GC
- 6L6GC, tube A of the push-pull pair, cathode grounded, biased from the fixed bias supply.
- V6, 6L6GC
- 6L6GC, tube B of the pair.
- 220k, 220 kΩ
- Grid leak for tube A, returned to the bias supply. Driven into grid current, the coupling cap charges through it and the bias goes colder for a moment. That’s blocking distortion.
- 220k, 220 kΩ
- Grid leak for tube B, returned to its own bias pot.
- 470, 470 Ω
- Screen resistor for tube A. It limits the screen current when the tube is driven hard.
- 470, 470 Ω
- Screen resistor for tube B.
- 4 H, 4 H
- A choke from B+ to the screen supply, as in the amp this style is based on. It passes DC with little drop, so the screens sit close to B+. With the cap after it, it would filter ripple, but ripple isn’t modeled here. Typical of the part, not measured.
- 100, 100 Ω
- The choke’s winding resistance, typical, not measured. It’s all the DC drop the screens see from B+.
- 20µ, 20 µF electrolytic
- Filter cap on the screen supply.
- 1k, 1 kΩ
- Dropping resistor from the screen supply node to the node for the inverter, as on the Fender AA165 Bassman drawing. The current drawn past it drops the voltage, so each stage down the chain runs lower than the one before, and a hard note that pulls B+ down pulls these down too.
- 20µ, 20 µF electrolytic
- Filter cap at the node for the inverter. With the dropping resistor it filters the supply and keeps the stages on this node from coupling to each other through it.
- 4.7k, 4.7 kΩ
- Dropping resistor from the node for the inverter to the node for the preamp, as on the Fender AA165 Bassman drawing. The current drawn past it drops the voltage, so each stage down the chain runs lower than the one before, and a hard note that pulls B+ down pulls these down too. The preamp runs off this node instead of its own HT supply.
- 20µ, 20 µF electrolytic
- Filter cap at the node for the preamp. With the dropping resistor it filters the supply and keeps the stages on this node from coupling to each other through it.
- OT, 4 kΩ to 4 Ω, 40 H primary, 10 mH leakage
- The output transformer, 4 kΩ plate to plate into 4 Ω, center tap on B+. Tap any piece of it to change its figures. The core saturates as the flux nears its knee. Every figure is typical of the part, not measured.
- PT, 320 V ac, 60 Hz
- One half of the power transformer’s high-voltage winding, 320 V ac from the grounded center tap, as a sine source at the mains frequency. The value is typical of the part, not measured.
- PT, 320 V ac, 60 Hz
- The other half of the winding, from the grounded center tap. It runs opposite the first half, so the rectifier charges the reservoir on every half cycle.
- PT R, 30 Ω
- Resistance of one half of the winding, plus the primary’s share. With the rectifier’s own drop it sets how far B+ sags on a hard note. Typical of the part, not measured.
- PT R, 30 Ω
- Resistance of the other half. Typical of the part, not measured.
- D1, 1N4001
- One of the silicon rectifier diodes. It drops under a volt, so B+ holds up better under load than with a tube rectifier.
- D2, 1N4001
- The other rectifier diode, on the other half cycle.
- 35µ, 35 µF electrolytic
- The reservoir cap. It feeds the output transformer’s center tap. It charges in short pulses at each peak of the mains and drains between them, so B+ carries ripple, and on a hard note it sags.
- Bias tap, 45 V ac, 60 Hz
- The power transformer’s bias tap, 45 V ac, as a sine source at the mains frequency. Typical of the part, not measured.
- 470, 470 Ω
- Series resistor into the bias rectifier, 470 Ω. It limits the charging current.
- Bias diode, 1N4001
- The bias rectifier, a silicon diode turned so the supply comes out negative.
- 50µ, 50 µF electrolytic
- Filter cap on the bias supply, its plus side to ground.
- Balance, 10 kΩ pot, linear taper
- Hum balance, 10k Ω linear across the bias supply. Its wiper feeds tube A’s grid through its grid leak. Tube B’s comes from the middle of the two 10k Ω across the same pot, so it holds still. Turning it moves tube A’s bias against tube B’s, a few volts each way. It’s set for the least hum, which is where the two tubes pull about the same current.
- 15k, 15 kΩ
- The bottom of the bias divider, 15k Ω to ground. With the pot and the series resistor above it, it sets the bias. There’s no bias adjust, so change this resistor to change it. Bigger runs the tubes colder.
- 10k, 10 kΩ
- From the bias supply’s top to tube B’s bias line, 10k Ω. With the one below, it puts tube B’s grid halfway between the ends of the balance pot.
- 10k, 10 kΩ
- From the balance pot’s bottom end to tube B’s bias line, 10k Ω, the other half of that divider.
- Coil R, 4.34 Ω
- Voice coil resistance, the floor of the speaker’s impedance. The shape of a 1x12 open-back cab with an alnico 12 in, measured (a 93 Ω peak near 74 Hz on 8 Ω), scaled to the 4 Ω tap. One real cab, not every speaker. The Speaker menu by the play buttons is separate. It plays the note through a speaker and cab impulse response, with either load.
- Coil L, 128 µH
- Voice coil inductance. It makes the impedance rise through the treble. The feedback holds the output steadier against that than it would be without feedback.
- Loss L, 232 µH
- With Loss R across it, the treble rises and then levels off, like the losses in a real coil.
- Loss R, 7.15 Ω
- Limits what Loss L adds to the treble rise.
- Loss L2, 1.06 mH
- A second step in the treble rise, with Loss R2 across it: a real voice coil’s losses keep climbing from a few hundred hertz.
- Loss R2, 1.09 Ω
- Limits what Loss L2 adds.
- Tank R, 41.9 Ω
- Height of the bass resonance, about 46 Ω in all at its peak. The feedback holds the output steadier against that than it would be without feedback.
- Tank L, 10.6 mH
- With Tank C, sets the resonance: 74 Hz.
- Tank C, 440 µF
- With Tank L, sets the resonance. With Tank R, it sets how narrow the peak is.
About this version
- AB165
- The AB165 drawing. The tube models are typical of each type, not measured.
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