Tweed four-input 6L6 amp with paralleled inputs and a cathodyne, mid 1950s style
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Modeled after the Fender 5E8-A Twin.
Two channels of a 12AY7 each, its two halves paralleled from jack 1, mixed into a 12AY7 gain stage and cathode follower, then a treble and bass network with its own feedback loop. A gain stage and cathodyne drive two fixed-bias 6L6Gs into two 12 in speakers, with feedback and presence.
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Common mods
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Input
Peak voltage from the pickup for each note. Strum hard and a single coil puts out a few hundred millivolts. When you play a chord, its strings share this level.
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Input
pickup, unloadedat the pedal input
Output
at the amp input
Probe
Spectrum
Frequency response
What the curves mean
The ink curve is the response to a very quiet signal, from the generator to the probe. The blue curve is measured with pink noise at the level you set, like an audio analyzer. When stages clip, the blue curve pulls away from the ink one and the gray coherence line (right-hand scale) drops below 1. Then no single curve tells the whole story. Both use the signal generator, whichever Input tab is picked.
Output
Bias
every voltage and current at rest
What to listen for. Each channel’s 12AY7 has both halves on the same signal from jack 1, their plates mixed through 100 kΩ each, so jack 2, one half alone, comes in about 6 dB lower. The rest of the preamp is the 5E6-A Bassman’s, a 12AY7 gain stage and cathode follower into the tone network, with 10 MΩ of feedback around them. In the power amp a 12AX7 driver and cathodyne feed two 6L6Gs at about -42 V of fixed bias into two 12 in speakers, with 56 kΩ of feedback onto the driver’s cathode and a presence control there. It delivers about 35 W at 6 % harmonics and about 55 W flat out.
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Parts and what they do
Stock values for the 5E8-A version. Tap a part on the schematic to change it.
- 1M, 1 MΩ
- Bright 1’s grid resistor, 1 MΩ from the jack’s tip to ground. The tip is the grid, with no 68 kΩ ahead of it.
- 1M, 1 MΩ
- Bright 2’s grid resistor, 1 MΩ to ground.
- V1a, 12AY7 / 6072
- The Bright channel’s jack 2 triode, half the 12AY7. With the guitar in jack 1 it runs beside the other half on the same signal. With the guitar in jack 2 it runs alone.
- V1b, 12AY7 / 6072
- The Bright channel’s jack 1 triode, the other half of the 12AY7. With the guitar in jack 2, jack 1’s switch grounds its grid and it loads the channel’s output.
- 100k, 100 kΩ
- Plate resistor for the jack 2 triode, 100 kΩ.
- 100k, 100 kΩ
- Plate resistor for the jack 1 triode, 100 kΩ.
- 100k, 100 kΩ
- From the jack 2 triode’s plate to the channel’s output, 100 kΩ. With its partner it mixes the two plates.
- 100k, 100 kΩ
- From the jack 1 triode’s plate to the channel’s output, 100 kΩ. When only the other triode is driven, this half and its plate resistor make the bottom of a divider, about 6 dB down.
- .02µ, 20 nF
- Coupling cap from the Bright channel’s output to the top of its volume, .02 µF 600 V.
- Vol 1M, 1 MΩ pot, audio taper
- Bright volume, 1 MΩ. Its wiper feeds the mixer. The drawing doesn’t mark the taper, so audio is assumed.
- 270k, 270 kΩ
- Bright mixing resistor into V3a, 270 kΩ. Each channel’s volume loads the other through the two of them.
- 1M, 1 MΩ
- Normal 1’s grid resistor, 1 MΩ from the jack’s tip to ground. The tip is the grid, with no 68 kΩ ahead of it.
- 1M, 1 MΩ
- Normal 2’s grid resistor, 1 MΩ to ground.
- V2a, 12AY7 / 6072
- The Normal channel’s jack 2 triode, half the 12AY7. With the guitar in jack 1 it runs beside the other half on the same signal. With the guitar in jack 2 it runs alone.
- V2b, 12AY7 / 6072
- The Normal channel’s jack 1 triode, the other half of the 12AY7. With the guitar in jack 2, jack 1’s switch grounds its grid and it loads the channel’s output.
- 100k, 100 kΩ
- Plate resistor for the jack 2 triode, 100 kΩ.
- 100k, 100 kΩ
- Plate resistor for the jack 1 triode, 100 kΩ.
- 100k, 100 kΩ
- From the jack 2 triode’s plate to the channel’s output, 100 kΩ. With its partner it mixes the two plates.
- 100k, 100 kΩ
- From the jack 1 triode’s plate to the channel’s output, 100 kΩ. When only the other triode is driven, this half and its plate resistor make the bottom of a divider, about 6 dB down.
- .02µ, 20 nF
- Coupling cap from the Normal channel’s output to the top of its volume, .02 µF 600 V.
- Vol 1M, 1 MΩ pot, audio taper
- Normal volume, 1 MΩ. Its wiper feeds the mixer. The drawing doesn’t mark the taper, so audio is assumed. Down, it grounds the Normal mixing resistor, which loads the Bright channel.
- 270k, 270 kΩ
- Normal mixing resistor into V3a, 270 kΩ. Each channel’s volume loads the other through the two of them.
- 470, 470 Ω
- Cathode resistor shared by all four input triodes, 470 Ω. It carries all four currents, so each half sees about four times its value.
- 250µ, 250 µF electrolytic
- Bypass for the shared cathode, 250 µF 6 V. Every input stage gets full gain down to the lowest notes.
- 100p, 100 pF
- Bright cap, 100 pF from the top of the Bright volume to its wiper. It lifts the top end with the volume down and does nothing at full.
- V3a, 12AY7 / 6072
- Gain stage after the mixer, half of a 12AY7. Its cathode is bypassed, so it gains about 30 on its own. The 10 MΩ from the tone network’s bass path cancels some of that.
- 100k, 100 kΩ
- Plate resistor for V3a.
- 1.5k, 1.5 kΩ
- V3a cathode resistor, 1500 Ω.
- 25µ, 25 µF electrolytic
- V3a cathode bypass, 25 µF 25 V.
- V3b, 12AY7 / 6072
- Cathode follower, the other half of the 12AY7, its grid straight on V3a’s plate. Its gain is slightly under 1, and its low output impedance drives the tone network.
- 100k, 100 kΩ
- Cathode follower load, 100 kΩ.
- 250p, 250 pF
- Treble cap, 250 pF (.00025 µF on the drawing), into the bright end of the treble pot.
- Treble 1M, 1 MΩ pot, audio taper
- Treble, 1 MΩ. Its wiper is the driver’s grid. One end has the 250 pF from the follower, the other goes to ground through .01 µF. Up moves the wiper toward the 250 pF, so more treble.
- .01µ, 10 nF
- From the far end of the treble pot to ground, .01 µF 400 V. The 5E8 has none: its treble pot’s far end is on the bass pot’s .005 µF.
- .1µ, 100 nF
- Coupling cap from the follower into the bass path, .1 µF 200 V.
- 220k, 220 kΩ
- From the bass path to ground, 220 kΩ. It holds the node at 0 V for the 10 MΩ and loads the follower lightly.
- 10M, 10 MΩ
- Feedback, 10 MΩ from the bass path back to V3a’s grid. V3a turns the signal over and the follower doesn’t, so this feeds back out of phase. It cuts V3’s gain about 3 dB.
- 220k, 220 kΩ
- From the bass path to the bass pot’s wiper, 220 kΩ.
- Bass 1M, 1 MΩ pot, audio taper
- Bass, 1 MΩ, its wiper on the bass path. One end goes straight to ground, the other through .005 µF. Down shorts the bass path to ground. Up leaves only the .005 µF there, which lets the bass through to the driver.
- .005µ, 5 nF
- From the bass pot’s far end to ground, .005 µF 600 V.
- 220k, 220 kΩ
- From the bass pot’s wiper to the driver’s grid, 220 kΩ. The bass path and the treble wiper mix here.
- V4a, 12AX7 / ECC83 / 7025
- 12AX7, the driver. A cathodyne has no gain of its own, so this stage raises the preamp’s signal about 30 times, enough to drive the output tubes. The feedback from the speaker goes to its cathode. Its grid connects straight to the preamp’s output with no coupling cap, so its path to ground is through the preamp’s volume and tone network.
- 100k, 100 kΩ
- Plate resistor for the driver.
- .02µ, 20 nF
- Coupling cap from the driver to the cathodyne.
- V4b, 12AX7 / ECC83 / 7025
- The cathodyne, or split-load inverter. The same current runs through its plate resistor and its cathode resistors, which are about equal, so the plate swings one way and the cathode the other by about the same amount. The cathode drives tube A, the plate tube B. Its gain is slightly under 1 on each side.
- 56k, 56 kΩ
- The cathodyne’s plate resistor, the output to tube B.
- 1.5k, 1.5 kΩ
- The cathodyne’s bias resistor. The grid returns below it, so the cathode sits this far above the grid.
- 56k, 56 kΩ
- The cathodyne’s cathode load, the same value as its plate resistor. The cathode above the bias resistor is the output to tube A.
- 1M, 1 MΩ
- Grid resistor for the cathodyne, returned to the junction of its cathode resistors so the grid sits near the cathode’s high DC voltage.
- 56k, 56 kΩ
- The feedback resistor from the speaker. With the 1.5k Ω below it, it sends about 3 % of the speaker voltage back to the driver’s cathode, which lowers the gain, flattens the response and tightens the bass.
- 1.5k, 1.5 kΩ
- The driver’s cathode resistor, 1.5k Ω to ground. It sets the driver’s bias, and it’s also the bottom of the feedback loop: the feedback resistor from the speaker connects at the top of it, so the fed-back speaker voltage moves the cathode. The presence cap and pot across it bypass part of it in the treble.
- .1µ, 100 nF
- The presence cap, in series with the pot across the leg. With the pot it sets where the lift starts.
- Presence, 5 kΩ pot, linear taper
- Presence, a 5k linear pot as a variable resistor, its resistance falling as it’s turned up, in series with the cap across the leg. Turned up, the cap shunts more of the leg’s treble, so less treble is fed back and the top end rises.
- .1µ, 100 nF
- Coupling cap to tube A’s grid.
- .1µ, 100 nF
- Coupling cap to tube B’s grid.
- 1.5k, 1.5 kΩ
- Grid stopper for tube A. It keeps the tube from oscillating and softens grid current.
- 1.5k, 1.5 kΩ
- Grid stopper for tube B.
- V5, 5881
- n5881, tube A of the push-pull pair, cathode grounded, biased from the fixed bias supply.
- V6, 5881
- n5881, tube B of the pair.
- 220k, 220 kΩ
- Grid leak for tube A, returned to the bias supply. Driven into grid current, the coupling cap charges through it and the bias goes colder for a moment. That’s blocking distortion.
- 220k, 220 kΩ
- Grid leak for tube B.
- 4 H, 4 H
- The choke from the reservoir cap to B+, as on the amp’s drawing. The output transformer’s center tap, the screens and everything after them hang past it, so all of their current runs through it. It passes DC with little drop. With the cap after it, it would filter ripple, but ripple isn’t modeled here. Typical of the part, not measured.
- 50, 50 Ω
- The choke’s winding resistance, typical, not measured. With the output tubes’ whole current through it, it’s most of the DC drop between the reservoir and B+.
- 16µ, 16 µF electrolytic
- Filter cap on B+ after the choke, where the output transformer’s center tap and the screens hang.
- 16µ, 16 µF electrolytic
- Second filter cap on the screen supply, beside the first.
- 10k, 10 kΩ
- Dropping resistor from the screen supply node to the node for the driver and inverter, as on the Fender 5E8-A Twin drawing. The current drawn past it drops the voltage, so each stage down the chain runs lower than the one before, and a hard note that pulls B+ down pulls these down too.
- 16µ, 16 µF electrolytic
- Filter cap at the node for the driver and inverter. With the dropping resistor it filters the supply and keeps the stages on this node from coupling to each other through it.
- 10k, 10 kΩ
- Dropping resistor from the node for the driver and inverter to the node for the preamp, as on the Fender 5E8-A Twin drawing. The current drawn past it drops the voltage, so each stage down the chain runs lower than the one before, and a hard note that pulls B+ down pulls these down too. The preamp runs off this node instead of its own HT supply.
- 8µ, 8 µF electrolytic
- Filter cap at the node for the preamp. With the dropping resistor it filters the supply and keeps the stages on this node from coupling to each other through it.
- OT, 4 kΩ to 4 Ω, 40 H primary, 10 mH leakage
- The output transformer, 4 kΩ plate to plate into 4 Ω, center tap on B+ after the choke. Tap any piece of it to change its figures. The core saturates as the flux nears its knee. Every figure is typical of the part, not measured.
- PT, 352 V ac, 60 Hz
- One half of the power transformer’s high-voltage winding, 352 V ac from the grounded center tap, as a sine source at the mains frequency. The value is typical of the part, not measured.
- PT, 352 V ac, 60 Hz
- The other half of the winding, from the grounded center tap. It runs opposite the first half, so the rectifier charges the reservoir on every half cycle.
- PT R, 40 Ω
- Resistance of one half of the winding, plus the primary’s share. With the rectifier’s own drop it sets how far B+ sags on a hard note. Typical of the part, not measured.
- PT R, 40 Ω
- Resistance of the other half. Typical of the part, not measured.
- V7, 5U4GB
- One plate of the 5U4GB rectifier. It conducts near the peak of its half of the winding, and its own drop rises with the current, which adds to the sag.
- V8, 5U4GB
- The rectifier’s other plate, on the other half cycle.
- 16µ, 16 µF electrolytic
- The reservoir cap. It feeds the choke, and past it the output transformer’s center tap and everything else. It charges in short pulses at each peak of the mains and drains between them, so B+ carries ripple, and on a hard note it sags.
- Bias tap, 42 V ac, 60 Hz
- The power transformer’s bias tap, 41.5 V ac, as a sine source at the mains frequency. Typical of the part, not measured.
- 3.3k, 3.3 kΩ
- Series resistor into the bias rectifier, 3.3k Ω. It limits the charging current.
- Bias diode, 1N4001
- The bias rectifier, a silicon diode turned so the supply comes out negative.
- 100µ, 100 µF electrolytic
- Filter cap on the bias supply, its plus side to ground.
- 56k, 56 kΩ
- The bias supply’s load, 56k Ω to ground. With the 3.3k Ω above it, it sets the bias. There’s no bias pot, so change this resistor to change the bias. Bigger runs the tubes colder.
- Coil R, 4.34 Ω
- Voice coil resistance, the floor of the speaker’s impedance. The shape of a 1x12 open-back cab with an alnico 12 in, measured (a 93 Ω peak near 74 Hz on 8 Ω), scaled to the 4 Ω tap. One real cab, not every speaker. The Speaker menu by the play buttons is separate. It plays the note through a speaker and cab impulse response, with either load.
- Coil L, 128 µH
- Voice coil inductance. It makes the impedance rise through the treble. The feedback holds the output steadier against that than it would be without feedback.
- Loss L, 232 µH
- With Loss R across it, the treble rises and then levels off, like the losses in a real coil.
- Loss R, 7.15 Ω
- Limits what Loss L adds to the treble rise.
- Loss L2, 1.06 mH
- A second step in the treble rise, with Loss R2 across it: a real voice coil’s losses keep climbing from a few hundred hertz.
- Loss R2, 1.09 Ω
- Limits what Loss L2 adds.
- Tank R, 41.9 Ω
- Height of the bass resonance, about 46 Ω in all at its peak. The feedback holds the output steadier against that than it would be without feedback.
- Tank L, 10.6 mH
- With Tank C, sets the resonance: 74 Hz.
- Tank C, 440 µF
- With Tank L, sets the resonance. With Tank R, it sets how narrow the peak is.
Versions
- 5E8-A
- The 5E8-A drawing: a 12AY7 for each input channel and another for the gain stage and cathode follower, with 10 MΩ of feedback around them. The tube models are fitted to their data sheets, not measured.
- 5E8, modeled after the Fender 5E8 Twin
- The earlier 5E8 drawing: the treble pot’s far end on the bass pot’s .005 µF, with no .01 µF of its own, and 6800 Ω ahead of the bias rectifier in place of 3300 Ω, so the bias line sits near -35 V and the 6L6s idle hotter. A pencil note on the drawing changes it to 3300 Ω.
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