Relay-switched overdrive amp with Ratio and PAB, 1984 style

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Good to know

Modeled after the Dumble Overdrive Special #124 (1984).

One triode drives a Fender-type tone stack straight from its plate, then a second triode with plate-to-grid feedback. A relay sends that to the Master either straight or through two more triodes, with a Level pot between them and a Ratio pot after.

Input

Add

Peak voltage from the pickup for each note. Strum hard and a single coil puts out a few hundred millivolts. When you play a chord, its strings share this level.

How it’s played
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Test tone for the graphs
The graphs use a steady tone. Play sounds a plucked string that dies away.

Input

pickup, unloadedat the pedal input

Output

at the amp input

Probe

Spectrum

Frequency response

What the curves mean

The ink curve is the response to a very quiet signal, from the generator to the probe. The blue curve is measured with pink noise at the level you set, like an audio analyzer. When stages clip, the blue curve pulls away from the ink one and the gray coherence line (right-hand scale) drops below 1. Then no single curve tells the whole story. Both use the signal generator, whichever Input tab is picked.

Output

Bias

every voltage and current at rest

What to listen for. The clean path is two 7025 stages with the tone stack between them, the stack hanging right on the first plate with no coupling cap. CL2 has 40 MΩ and .05 µF from its plate back to its grid, which lowers its gain about 2 dB. The OD relay adds the overdrive path: 220 kΩ into the OD Trimmer drops the level ahead of OD1, Level sets how hard OD2 is hit, and Ratio sets how much of the overdrive reaches the Master against the clean. 270 pF from each overdrive plate to its cathode rolls off the fizz. The PAB relay lifts the bottom of the stack, so the mids and treble skip most of the stack’s loss. The Master sets what the phase inverter gets.

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Parts and what they do

Stock values. Tap a part on the schematic to change it.

2.2k, 2.2 kΩ
Dropping resistor, 2.2 kΩ 2 W from B+4 to B+5.
20µ, 20 µF electrolytic
B+5 filter cap, 20 µF 500 V.
1M, 1 MΩ
Input resistor to ground at the Normal jack.
33k, 33 kΩ
Grid stopper into V1b. With the tube’s input capacitance it keeps radio and fizz out.
V1b, 12AX7 / ECC83 / 7025
First stage, CL1 on the drawing. Its plate drives the tone stack directly.
100k, 100 kΩ
V1b plate resistor, 100 kΩ 1 % metal film. It’s also part of the tone stack, since the stack hangs right on the plate.
1.5k, 1.5 kΩ
V1b cathode resistor, 1.5 kΩ 1 % metal film.
10µ, 10 µF electrolytic
V1b bypass cap. Full gain down to about 20 Hz.
330p, 330 pF
Treble cap, from V1b’s plate to the top of Treble. 330 pF in parentheses on the drawing, .002 µF after 1988.
100k, 100 kΩ
Slope resistor, from V1b’s plate to the bass and middle caps. 100 kΩ in parentheses on the drawing, 150 kΩ after 1988.
.1µ, 100 nF
Bass cap, to the top of Bass.
.05µ, 50 nF
Middle cap, to Middle’s wiper. .05 µF in parentheses on the drawing, .01 µF after 1988.
Middle, 100 kΩ pot, audio taper
Middle, 100 kΩ as a variable resistor to ground (its top lug isn’t connected). Turned up, its resistance rises and less of the mids go to ground. Audio taper is typical, not on the drawing.
Treble, 250 kΩ pot, audio taper
Treble, 250 kΩ. Its wiper is the stack’s output, the top of Volume. Audio taper is typical, not on the drawing.
Bass, 250 kΩ pot, audio taper
Bass, 250 kΩ. On Rock with the PAB relay at rest its wiper is tied to its top, so it’s a variable resistor. Audio taper is typical, and 500 kΩ audio after 1988.
1.8k, 1.8 kΩ
Under Bass, to ground. With Bass at 0 the stack still has 1.8 kΩ at the bottom. 10 kΩ after 1988.
22M, 22 MΩ
Across the PAB relay’s first contact, from Treble’s bottom to the Rock/Jazz switch. It keeps the open contact at the same DC level, so the relay doesn’t pop.
22M, 22 MΩ
Across the PAB relay’s second contact, from Bass’s wiper to the Rock/Jazz switch. It keeps the open contact at the same DC level, so the relay doesn’t pop.
.01µ, 10 nF
On Jazz, the first of two .01 µF in series from Treble’s bottom to ground, .005 µF in all.
.01µ, 10 nF
The second Jazz cap, to ground.
100k, 100 kΩ
On Jazz, from Bass’s wiper to Volume, so bass reaches the volume around Treble. On Rock its switch end hangs open.
Volume, 1 MΩ pot, audio taper
Volume, 1 MΩ audio. It sets how hard CL2 and, with Overdrive on, the whole overdrive path get driven.
270k, 270 kΩ
Deep network, from the Rock/Jazz pole (Bass’s top on Rock). With Deep off its far end hangs open.
270k, 270 kΩ
Deep network, from Volume’s wiper. With Deep off its far end hangs open.
.01µ, 10 nF
Deep network cap, with 1 MΩ across it.
1M, 1 MΩ
Across the Deep cap.
10k, 10 kΩ
Bottom of the Deep network, to ground.
220k, 220 kΩ
From Volume’s wiper into V1a’s grid. With the feedback from V1a’s plate it sets how far the feedback cuts this stage’s gain.
500p, 500 pF
Across the 220 kΩ. Above about 1.4 kHz it lets the treble around the resistor, so the feedback cuts the treble less than the rest.
10M, 10 MΩ
Plate-to-grid feedback on V1a, one of four 10 MΩ in series with .05 µF. The 40 MΩ against the 220 kΩ feeds back about 0.5 % of the plate signal.
10M, 10 MΩ
Plate-to-grid feedback on V1a, the second 10 MΩ.
.05µ, 50 nF
In the feedback string, so the plate’s DC stays off the grid.
10M, 10 MΩ
Plate-to-grid feedback on V1a, the third 10 MΩ.
10M, 10 MΩ
Plate-to-grid feedback on V1a, the fourth 10 MΩ, from the plate.
V1a, 12AX7 / ECC83 / 7025
Second stage, CL2 on the drawing. Its output feeds the OD relay.
100k, 100 kΩ
V1a plate resistor.
1.5k, 1.5 kΩ
V1a cathode resistor.
10µ, 10 µF electrolytic
V1a bypass cap.
.05µ, 50 nF
Coupling cap out of V1a, to the OD relay.
220k, 220 kΩ
Into the top of the OD Trimmer. With the trimmer it makes a divider, so even with the trimmer at full only about a third of CL2’s output reaches OD1.
OD Trim, 100 kΩ pot, linear taper
OD Trimmer, 100 kΩ, inside the chassis. It sets how hard OD1 is hit. Set at 1 o’clock, a usual setting. The drawing shows none.
68k, 68 kΩ
Grid stopper into V2b.
V2b, 12AX7 / ECC83 / 7025
First overdrive stage, OD1 on the drawing.
100k, 100 kΩ
V2b plate resistor, from B+4.
270p, 270 pF
From V2b’s plate to its cathode, 270 pF X5F. In the treble it feeds plate signal back onto the cathode, so the stage’s gain falls off above a few kilohertz and the fizz comes down.
1.5k, 1.5 kΩ
V2b cathode resistor.
4.7µ, 4.7 µF electrolytic
V2b bypass cap, 4.7 µF. Full gain down to about 40 Hz.
.01µ, 10 nF
Coupling cap out of V2b.
100k, 100 kΩ
In series with Level. With the pot it makes a divider, so even at full only about half of OD1’s output reaches OD2.
Level, 100 kΩ pot, audio taper
Level, 100 kΩ audio, between the two overdrive stages. It sets how hard OD2 is driven.
180k, 180 kΩ
Grid stopper into V2a. With the tube’s input capacitance it trims the top end going into OD2.
V2a, 12AX7 / ECC83 / 7025
Second overdrive stage, OD2 on the drawing.
100k, 100 kΩ
V2a plate resistor, from B+4.
270p, 270 pF
From V2a’s plate to its cathode, 270 pF X5F, as on OD1.
1.5k, 1.5 kΩ
V2a cathode resistor.
4.7µ, 4.7 µF electrolytic
V2a bypass cap, 4.7 µF.
.005µ, 5 nF
Coupling cap out of V2a, .005 µF. Into the 250 kΩ below it, it cuts the bass under about 130 Hz.
150k, 150 kΩ
In series with Ratio. With the pot it makes a divider, so even at full only about 40 % of OD2’s output reaches the Master.
Ratio, 100 kΩ pot, linear taper
Ratio, 100 kΩ linear. It sets how much of the overdrive path reaches the Master, so it matches the overdrive’s level against the clean.
Master, 1 MΩ pot, audio taper
Master, 1 MΩ audio. Its wiper feeds the phase inverter, through the effects send and return, so it sets the level for both paths.
150k, 150 kΩ
Feeds the FET input from B+5 through 150 kΩ 2 W, which drops most of the voltage. With the 8.2 kΩ below it, the FET’s supply sits around 10 to 15 V.
8.2k, 8.2 kΩ
The bottom of the FET’s supply divider, 8.2 kΩ to ground. It holds the supply low enough for the transistor.
100µ, 100 µF electrolytic
Filter cap on the FET’s supply, 100 µF.
10k, 10 kΩ
The FET’s drain resistor, 10 kΩ.
Q1, NTE452
The FET input’s transistor, an NTE452 on the drawing (modeled as a 2N4416, the part it replaces, with typical values), its case grounded. With its drain on 10 kΩ it has a gain of a few times, and its gate pulls no current, so the guitar sees about 3.3 MΩ.
8.2k, 8.2 kΩ
Source resistor, 8.2 kΩ. It sets the FET’s current, about a third of a milliamp, so the drain sits near 10 V.
4.7µ, 4.7 µF electrolytic
Bypass cap on the FET’s source, so the source resistor sets the current without lowering the gain.
3.3M, 3.3 MΩ
From the FET jack’s tip to ground, 3.3 MΩ. It sets the gate’s DC at ground and most of what the guitar sees, about 3.3 MΩ against the Normal jack’s 1 MΩ.
1M, 1 MΩ
1 MΩ from the jack into the gate, with 100 pF across it. The gate pulls no current, so it costs nothing at DC.
100p, 100 pF
100 pF across the 1 MΩ, so the treble gets past it to the gate.
4.7µ, 4.7 µF electrolytic
Coupling cap from the drain to the Trim.
Trim, 10 kΩ pot, linear taper
Trim, 10 kΩ linear, inside the amp. Its wiper goes to the Normal jack’s switch, so it sets the FET input’s level into CL1. The drawing shows no setting; 0.5 of its turn is a guess.
.02µ, 20 nF
Coupling cap into the phase inverter. With the grid resistor it sets how low the inverter goes, around 5 Hz.
V3a, 12AX7 / ECC83 / 7025
12AX7, the driven half of the long-tail pair phase inverter. Its plate swings opposite the input and drives tube A.
V3b, 12AX7 / ECC83 / 7025
The other half of the inverter. Its grid sits at the feedback point for signal, so it’s driven through the shared cathodes, and its plate swings with the input. It drives tube B.
1M, 1 MΩ
Grid resistor for the driven half, returned to the bias point above the tail, not to ground.
1M, 1 MΩ
Grid resistor for the other half.
820, 820 Ω
Bias resistor for both halves. The cathodes sit this far above the grids’ return, a volt or so.
24k, 24 kΩ
The tail resistor. It’s large, so the pair shares a nearly fixed current. When one half conducts more, the other conducts less, which splits the phase.
.1µ, 100 nF
Ties the second grid to the feedback point for signal, so the feedback acts across the pair.
113k, 113 kΩ
Plate resistor for the driven half. It’s smaller than the other so the two outputs come out about even.
123k, 123 kΩ
Plate resistor for the other half.
4.7k, 4.7 kΩ
The feedback resistor from the speaker. With the 390 Ω below it, it sends about 8 % of the speaker voltage back to the inverter, which lowers the gain, flattens the response and tightens the bass.
390, 390 Ω
The bottom of the feedback loop, 390 Ω to ground. The fed-back speaker voltage arrives here and moves the tail.
1µ, 1 µF
The presence cap, in series with the pot across the leg. With the pot it sets where the lift starts.
Presence, 2 kΩ pot, linear taper
Presence, a 2k linear pot as a variable resistor, its resistance falling as it’s turned up, in series with the cap across the leg. Turned up, the cap shunts more of the leg’s treble, so less treble is fed back and the top end rises.
.1µ, 100 nF
Coupling cap to tube A’s grid.
.1µ, 100 nF
Coupling cap to tube B’s grid.
750, 750 Ω
Grid stopper for tube A. It keeps the tube from oscillating and softens grid current. Each of the two tubes has its own 1.5k. The resistors are drawn as one part, the two in parallel.
750, 750 Ω
Grid stopper for tube B. Each of the two tubes has its own 1.5k. The resistors are drawn as one part, the two in parallel.
V4, 6L6GC
6L6GC, tube A of the pair, cathode grounded, biased from the fixed bias supply. V5 runs beside it on the same grid, plate and screen.
V6, 6L6GC
6L6GC, tube B of the pair. V7 runs beside it.
V5, 6L6GC
6L6GC, the second tube on side A, in parallel with V4 on 100 W. On 50 W its cathode goes through 10k Ω to the LED instead of ground, which cuts it nearly off.
V7, 6L6GC
6L6GC, the second tube on side B, in parallel with V6 on 100 W. On 50 W its cathode goes through 10k Ω to the LED instead of ground, which cuts it nearly off.
10k, 10 kΩ
On 50 W, V5’s cathode resistor to the LED. Its current lifts the cathode until the tube nearly stops conducting. On 100 W the switch grounds the cathode and this carries nothing.
10k, 10 kΩ
The same for V7.
LED, Red LED
The 50 W light. The two switched tubes’ small current runs through it, so it lights on 50 W and adds its drop to their bias.
220k, 220 kΩ
Grid leak for tube A, returned to the bias supply. Driven into grid current, the coupling cap charges through it and the bias goes colder for a moment. That’s blocking distortion.
220k, 220 kΩ
Grid leak for tube B.
235, 235 Ω
Screen resistor for tube A. It limits the screen current when the tube is driven hard. Each of the two tubes has its own 470. The resistors are drawn as one part, the two in parallel.
235, 235 Ω
Screen resistor for tube B. Each of the two tubes has its own 470. The resistors are drawn as one part, the two in parallel.
4 H, 4 H
A choke from B+ to the screen supply, as in the amp this style is based on. It passes DC with little drop, so the screens sit close to B+. With the cap after it, it would filter ripple, but ripple isn’t modeled here. Typical of the part, not measured.
100, 100 Ω
The choke’s winding resistance, typical, not measured. It’s all the DC drop the screens see from B+.
20µ, 20 µF electrolytic
Filter cap on the screen supply.
2.2k, 2.2 kΩ
Dropping resistor from the screen supply node to the node for the inverter, as on the Dumble Overdrive Special #124 drawing. The current drawn past it drops the voltage, so each stage down the chain runs lower than the one before, and a hard note that pulls B+ down pulls these down too.
20µ, 20 µF electrolytic
Filter cap at the node for the inverter. With the dropping resistor it filters the supply and keeps the stages on this node from coupling to each other through it.
22k, 22 kΩ
Dropping resistor from the node for the inverter to the node for the preamp, as on the Dumble Overdrive Special #124 drawing. The current drawn past it drops the voltage, so each stage down the chain runs lower than the one before, and a hard note that pulls B+ down pulls these down too. The preamp runs off this node instead of its own HT supply.
20µ, 20 µF electrolytic
Filter cap at the node for the preamp. With the dropping resistor it filters the supply and keeps the stages on this node from coupling to each other through it.
OT, 2 kΩ to 4 Ω, 20 H primary, 5 mH leakage
The output transformer, 2 kΩ plate to plate into 4 Ω, center tap on B+. Tap any piece of it to change its figures. The core saturates as the flux nears its knee. Every figure is typical of the part, not measured.
PT, 340 V ac, 60 Hz
One half of the power transformer’s high-voltage winding, 340 V ac from the grounded center tap, as a sine source at the mains frequency. The value is typical of the part, not measured.
PT, 340 V ac, 60 Hz
The other half of the winding, from the grounded center tap. It runs opposite the first half, so the rectifier charges the reservoir on every half cycle.
PT R, 35 Ω
Resistance of one half of the winding, plus the primary’s share. With the rectifier’s own drop it sets how far B+ sags on a hard note. Typical of the part, not measured.
PT R, 35 Ω
Resistance of the other half. Typical of the part, not measured.
D1, 1N4001
One of the silicon rectifier diodes. It drops under a volt, so B+ holds up better under load than with a tube rectifier.
D2, 1N4001
The other rectifier diode, on the other half cycle.
150µ, 150 µF electrolytic
The reservoir cap. It feeds the output transformer’s center tap. It charges in short pulses at each peak of the mains and drains between them, so B+ carries ripple, and on a hard note it sags.
Bias tap, 56 V ac, 60 Hz
The power transformer’s bias tap, 56 V ac, as a sine source at the mains frequency. Typical of the part, not measured.
3.3k, 3.3 kΩ
Series resistor into the bias rectifier, 3.3k Ω. It limits the charging current.
Bias diode, 1N4001
The bias rectifier, a silicon diode turned so the supply comes out negative.
100µ, 100 µF electrolytic
Filter cap on the bias supply, its plus side to ground.
Bias 10k, 10 kΩ pot, linear taper
Bias adjust, 10k Ω linear. Its wiper feeds both output grids through their grid leaks. Toward the diode end the grids go more negative and the tubes idle cooler.
27k, 27 kΩ
The bottom of the bias divider, 27k Ω to ground.
Coil R, 4.34 Ω
Voice coil resistance, the floor of the speaker’s impedance. The shape of a 1x12 open-back cab with an alnico 12 in, measured (a 93 Ω peak near 74 Hz on 8 Ω), scaled to the 4 Ω tap. One real cab, not every speaker. The Speaker menu by the play buttons is separate. It plays the note through a speaker and cab impulse response, with either load.
Coil L, 128 µH
Voice coil inductance. It makes the impedance rise through the treble. The feedback holds the output steadier against that than it would be without feedback.
Loss L, 232 µH
With Loss R across it, the treble rises and then levels off, like the losses in a real coil.
Loss R, 7.15 Ω
Limits what Loss L adds to the treble rise.
Loss L2, 1.06 mH
A second step in the treble rise, with Loss R2 across it: a real voice coil’s losses keep climbing from a few hundred hertz.
Loss R2, 1.09 Ω
Limits what Loss L2 adds.
Tank R, 41.9 Ω
Height of the bass resonance, about 46 Ω in all at its peak. The feedback holds the output steadier against that than it would be without feedback.
Tank L, 10.6 mH
With Tank C, sets the resonance: 74 Hz.
Tank C, 440 µF
With Tank L, sets the resonance. With Tank R, it sets how narrow the peak is.

About this version

As drawn, 1984
Four 7025 triodes (12AX7s), typical of the type, not measured. Values in parentheses on the drawing, the ones before the 1988 changes, are used.

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