Two-stage amp with a pentode driver and KT88s, late 1960s style
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Modeled after the Sunn Sorado (and 200S).
A 12AX7 with Lo Boost and Hi Boost switches, a treble and bass stack, then a 6AN8 pentode wired straight into a cathodyne and a pair of ultra-linear KT88s.
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Common mods
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Input
Peak voltage from the pickup for each note. Strum hard and a single coil puts out a few hundred millivolts. When you play a chord, its strings share this level.
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Input
pickup, unloadedat the pedal input
Output
at the amp input
Probe
Spectrum
Frequency response
What the curves mean
The ink curve is the response to a very quiet signal, from the generator to the probe. The blue curve is measured with pink noise at the level you set, like an audio analyzer. When stages clip, the blue curve pulls away from the ink one and the gray coherence line (right-hand scale) drops below 1. Then no single curve tells the whole story. Both use the signal generator, whichever Input tab is picked.
Output
Bias
every voltage and current at rest
What to listen for. A 12AX7 preamp with a treble and bass stack, then a lot of gain from the 6AN8’s pentode, which feeds its own triode, a cathodyne, with no coupling cap between them. The two switches change what gets to the second stage: Lo Boost lets the lows through to the Volume pot, Hi Boost deepens the mid scoop. Two KT88s run ultra-linear on about 480 V, with the speaker’s feedback going in under the pentode’s cathode.
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Parts and what they do
Stock values. Tap a part on the schematic to change it.
- R1, 68 kΩ
- Input resistor, 68 kΩ into V1a’s grid. Each of the two jacks has its own, with nothing to switch the other out.
- R2, 1 MΩ
- Grid resistor, 1 MΩ to ground.
- V1a, 12AX7 / ECC83 / 7025
- First stage, half a 12AX7, fully bypassed for full gain.
- RP1, 100 kΩ
- V1a plate resistor, 100 kΩ from C (+320 V on the drawing).
- RK1, 1.5 kΩ
- V1a cathode resistor, 1.5 kΩ.
- CK1, 250 µF electrolytic
- V1a bypass cap, 250 µF 15 V. Full gain down through the bass.
- CLB, 7.5 nF
- Lo Boost cap, .0075 µF. With the switch on it feeds V1a’s plate to the Volume pot’s top, full range.
- R10M, 10 MΩ
- 10 MΩ from V1a’s plate to the Volume pot’s top, across the cap and switch. With Lo Boost off it’s the only path to the pot’s top. It also puts a few volts of DC on the pot, as drawn.
- CBR, 2 nF
- .002 µF from V1a’s plate straight to the Volume wiper. With Lo Boost off it’s the main path: with the pot’s lower part it passes the mids and treble and cuts the lows.
- Volume, 500 kΩ pot, audio taper
- Volume, 500 kΩ. Its taper isn’t marked on the drawing, so audio is assumed. Its wiper is V1b’s grid.
- V1b, 12AX7 / ECC83 / 7025
- Second stage, the other half of the 12AX7, its cathode unbypassed. Its plate drives the tone stack directly.
- RP2, 100 kΩ
- V1b plate resistor, 100 kΩ.
- RK2, 1.5 kΩ
- V1b cathode resistor, 1.5 kΩ, no bypass cap. It holds the stage’s gain to about 33.
- CT, 470 pF
- Treble cap, 470 pF, to the Treble pot’s top.
- RSL, 56 kΩ
- Slope resistor, 56 kΩ.
- CB, 22 nF
- Bass cap, .022 µF, from the slope node into the Bass pot’s wiper.
- Treble, 250 kΩ pot, linear taper
- Treble, 250 kΩ. Its wiper drives the pentode’s grid. The taper isn’t marked, so linear is assumed. Clockwise moves the wiper toward the 470 pF, brighter.
- Bass, 1 MΩ pot, audio taper
- Bass, 1 MΩ, the bass cap on its wiper. Clockwise moves the wiper toward the Treble pot’s bottom, so the lows reach the Treble pot through less resistance and come up. The taper isn’t marked, so audio is assumed.
- RBB, 22 kΩ
- 22 kΩ from the Bass pot’s bottom to ground.
- R47, 47 kΩ
- 47 kΩ from the Treble pot’s bottom, with the .0075 µF below it to ground. It shunts some of the treble at the Treble pot’s bottom.
- C75, 7.5 nF
- .0075 µF under the 47 kΩ to ground.
- CM, 22 nF
- Mid cap, .022 µF, from the slope node to the 22 kΩ. It sets how deep the mid scoop goes.
- RHB, 22 kΩ
- 22 kΩ under the mid cap. The Hi Boost switch shorts it.
- RGP, 1 MΩ
- Grid resistor for the pentode, 1 MΩ to ground.
- V2a, 6AN8 pentode (RCA sheet)
- The 6AN8’s pentode, the driver. Its model is typical: the 6AU6’s shape, set at the one operating point on the drawing, not fitted to a 6AN8 sheet. Its plate is wired straight to the cathodyne’s grid.
- RP3, 270 kΩ
- Pentode plate resistor, 270 kΩ. Its plate sits at about 75 V, and that sets the cathodyne’s grid.
- C12, 12 pF
- 12 pF from the pentode’s plate to C. It rolls off the far top end.
- RS3, 1.5 MΩ
- Screen resistor, 1.5 MΩ. It holds the screen near 35 V, so the pentode runs on little current with a lot of gain.
- CS3, 100 nF
- Screen cap, .1 µF from the screen to the cathode, so the screen follows the cathode for signal.
- RK3, 680 Ω
- Pentode cathode resistor, 680 Ω, not bypassed, down to the feedback point.
- V2b, 6AN8 (triode section)
- 6AN8 triode, a cathodyne, or split-load inverter, its grid wired straight to the plate of the stage before it, with no coupling cap. That plate’s voltage sets the grid’s, and the cathode sits a few volts above it. The same current runs through its plate resistor and its cathode resistor, which are equal, so the plate swings one way and the cathode the other by about the same amount. The cathode drives tube A, the plate tube B. Its gain is slightly under 1 on each side. On the drawing it’s the triode half of the 6AN8 whose pentode is the stage before. Its model is fitted to the RCA 6AN8-A sheet.
- 47k, 47 kΩ
- The cathodyne’s plate resistor, the output to tube B.
- 47k, 47 kΩ
- The cathodyne’s cathode resistor, the same value as its plate resistor, straight to ground, and the output to tube A. There’s no separate bias resistor.
- 1k, 1 kΩ
- The feedback resistor from the speaker. With the 47 Ω below it, it sends about 4 % of the speaker voltage back to the driver’s cathode, which lowers the gain, flattens the response and tightens the bass.
- 750p, 750 pF
- A small cap across the feedback resistor. It feeds back more of the top end, which keeps the loop steady out where the output transformer turns the phase round.
- 47, 47 Ω
- The bottom of the feedback loop, 47 Ω to ground under the driver’s cathode resistor. It isn’t bypassed, so the fed-back speaker voltage moves the cathode. The driver’s current runs through it too, so it’s kept small.
- .25µ, 250 nF
- Coupling cap to tube A’s grid.
- .25µ, 250 nF
- Coupling cap to tube B’s grid.
- 1k, 1 kΩ
- Grid stopper for tube A. It keeps the tube from oscillating and softens grid current.
- 1k, 1 kΩ
- Grid stopper for tube B.
- V3, KT88
- kt88, tube A of the push-pull pair, cathode grounded, biased from the fixed bias supply.
- V4, KT88
- kt88, tube B of the pair.
- 100k, 100 kΩ
- Grid leak for tube A, returned to the bias supply. Driven into grid current, the coupling cap charges through it and the bias goes colder for a moment. That’s blocking distortion.
- 100k, 100 kΩ
- Grid leak for tube B.
- 15k, 15 kΩ
- Dropping resistor from B+ to the node for the cathodyne, as on the Sunn Sorado / 200S drawing. The current drawn past it drops the voltage, so each stage down the chain runs lower than the one before, and a hard note that pulls B+ down pulls these down too.
- 20µ, 20 µF electrolytic
- Filter cap at the node for the cathodyne. With the dropping resistor it filters the supply and keeps the stages on this node from coupling to each other through it.
- 33k, 33 kΩ
- Dropping resistor from the node for the cathodyne to the node for the preamp, as on the Sunn Sorado / 200S drawing. The current drawn past it drops the voltage, so each stage down the chain runs lower than the one before, and a hard note that pulls B+ down pulls these down too. The preamp runs off this node instead of its own HT supply.
- 20µ, 20 µF electrolytic
- Filter cap at the node for the preamp. With the dropping resistor it filters the supply and keeps the stages on this node from coupling to each other through it.
- OT, 4 kΩ to 8 Ω, 25 H primary, 8 mH leakage
- The output transformer, 4 kΩ plate to plate into 8 Ω, center tap on B+. Tap any piece of it to change its figures. The core saturates as the flux nears its knee. Every figure is typical of the part, not measured.
- PT, 378 V ac, 60 Hz
- One half of the power transformer’s high-voltage winding, 378 V ac from the grounded center tap, as a sine source at the mains frequency. The value is typical of the part, not measured.
- PT, 378 V ac, 60 Hz
- The other half of the winding, from the grounded center tap. It runs opposite the first half, so the rectifier charges the reservoir on every half cycle.
- PT R, 40 Ω
- Resistance of one half of the winding, plus the primary’s share. With the rectifier’s own drop it sets how far B+ sags on a hard note. Typical of the part, not measured.
- PT R, 40 Ω
- Resistance of the other half. Typical of the part, not measured.
- V6, GZ34
- One plate of the GZ34 rectifier. It conducts near the peak of its half of the winding, and its own drop rises with the current, which adds to the sag.
- V6, GZ34
- The rectifier’s other plate, on the other half cycle.
- 30µ, 30 µF electrolytic
- The reservoir cap. It feeds the output transformer’s center tap. It charges in short pulses at each peak of the mains and drains between them, so B+ carries ripple, and on a hard note it sags.
- Bias tap, 61 V ac, 60 Hz
- The power transformer’s bias tap, 61 V ac, as a sine source at the mains frequency. Typical of the part, not measured.
- tap R, 100 Ω
- The bias tap’s own resistance, 100 Ω, typical, not measured. The drawing has no resistor between the tap and the diode.
- Bias diode, 1N4001
- The bias rectifier, a silicon diode turned so the supply comes out negative.
- 50µ, 50 µF electrolytic
- Filter cap on the bias supply, its plus side to ground.
- 1k, 1 kΩ
- Second resistor of the bias supply, 1k Ω. With the cap after it, it filters the ripple a second time.
- 50µ, 50 µF electrolytic
- Second filter cap, its plus side to ground. The bias pot hangs from here.
- Bias 10k, 10 kΩ pot, linear taper
- Bias adjust, 10k Ω linear, from the second cap down to the resistor below it. Its wiper feeds both output grids through their grid leaks. Toward the cap end the grid goes more negative and the tube idles cooler.
- 18k, 18 kΩ
- The bottom of the bias divider, 18k Ω to ground. It sets the least bias the pot can set.
- Coil R, 8.69 Ω
- Voice coil resistance, the floor of the speaker’s impedance. The shape of a 1x12 open-back cab with an alnico 12 in, measured (a 93 Ω peak near 74 Hz on 8 Ω), scaled to the 8 Ω tap. One real cab, not every speaker. The Speaker menu by the play buttons is separate. It plays the note through a speaker and cab impulse response, with either load.
- Coil L, 256 µH
- Voice coil inductance. It makes the impedance rise through the treble. The feedback holds the output steadier against that than it would be without feedback.
- Loss L, 464 µH
- With Loss R across it, the treble rises and then levels off, like the losses in a real coil.
- Loss R, 14.3 Ω
- Limits what Loss L adds to the treble rise.
- Loss L2, 2.13 mH
- A second step in the treble rise, with Loss R2 across it: a real voice coil’s losses keep climbing from a few hundred hertz.
- Loss R2, 2.19 Ω
- Limits what Loss L2 adds.
- Tank R, 83.7 Ω
- Height of the bass resonance, about 92 Ω in all at its peak. The feedback holds the output steadier against that than it would be without feedback.
- Tank L, 21.1 mH
- With Tank C, sets the resonance: 74 Hz.
- Tank C, 220 µF
- With Tank L, sets the resonance. With Tank R, it sets how narrow the peak is.
- 16 Ω tap, 1 V
- The 16 Ω tap the feedback comes from, assumed to be an ideal tap on the same winding: 1.414 times the speaker voltage. The load the feedback network puts on the winding is left out. It’s tens of kilohms on a winding of a few ohms.
About this version
- Sorado / 200S, 1968
- The May 1968 drawing, the same for the Sorado and the 200S. The 6AN8’s pentode model is set at the drawing’s operating point, a typical stand-in, and its triode is fitted to the RCA 6AN8-A sheet. The tube models are typical of each type, not measured.
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